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PostSubject: Voting and Ratification   Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:33 pm

I am not putting this to a poll because this is not set in stone; I want to see what everyone thinks of the following layout.
My inspiration for this layout was upper and lower houses of government, as they exist in many world governments.

Layout:

Lower House (e.g. The Assembly, House of commons, etc. (I like the Assembly)):
-consists of all members, except those of the Council of Elders
-possess the ability to vote on initiatives
-diplomatic resolutions and infrastructure changes *must* originate in the lower house, to protect them from unfair resolutions, that do not reflect their interests
-if the resolution is passed, it is presented to the council for approval/revision
-if rejected, the resolution must be re-drafted
-*May be entitled to elect a Speaker, who has the power to appoint committees to review certain subjects (strategy/tactics, diplomatic policy, etc.)

Council of Elders:
-Can originate votes that are not diplomatic or infrastructure related
-possesses the power to revise/deny initiatives outright (veto)
-veto is to protect best interests of the clan
-If resolution is passed without revisions, it takes effect
-if rejected, it is revised and sent back to the lower house for re-voting
-if vetoed, the bill cannot be revised or voted on again, unless with a super-majority vote (i.e., more than over half, like two-thirds, or three fifths) by the lower house
-Consists of Daiymo and Chief Retainer, and may be expanded to include branch leaders (Sword Teacher, Spear Teacher, Archery Teacher, Horsemanship Teacher, Admiral, Principal Emissary)
- Council also functions as a committee that reviews strategy and diplomatic policy

Executive Orders:
-The Daiymo and Chief Retainer have the power to initiate executive orders, which bypass the Assembly and Council
-Executive Orders are resolutions that take immediate effect, and do not require voting
-Can apply to strategy, diplomacy, and infrastructure changes
-exist as a "final say", which protects the interests of the clan, only to be used as a last resort
-require the approval of both the Daiymo and the Chief Retainer


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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:08 pm

........................... bounce Wonderful, I really like the layout very well thought.

Waiting for the approval of Council of Elders.[This will make our clan far more organized, we will be the Shogun's]



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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:48 pm

That was my motivation. Once the clan reaches considerable size, a higher level of organization will be required to accomplish anything. My goal was to design a system in which decisions can be made collectively by a large group, while ensuring that the decision making process stays in line with the goals of the clan.
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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:35 am

Brilliant idea! Very Happy i love clans that have layouts like this but not many have them Razz i'm definitely staying in this clan for a long long time Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:25 pm

Yes the better organized we are the better our clan will do. Few of the other clans i have looked through have had websites or forums so this will help. Also how will the Higher House work, will it be the best or the most dedicated or the players who have been in the clan longest?
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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:37 pm

That has yet to be decided, but I would think that the council should be based as a meritocracy (i.e., the more involved/contribute you are, the more likely you are to be appointed). Someone with lots of tactical and strategic expertise would probably contribute more, but that is not to say that other people who do things like attract members cannot be elevated to the council. Naturally, the longer you have been in the clan, the more things you have likely contributed to, so it is not inaccurate to say that the more senior members would also be more likely to receive appointment.
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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:32 am

I agree with the rest, its great o: Depending on how big we get ofcourse. Smile

My only thing would be to maybe try and go for something sounding more like "leaders & followers" rather than elites & commons Smile -Since i believe "class differences" are to keep the social structure, we shouldnt need that with a "monarchy". And having role differences suits a battlefield more i think. -Just a surgestion (:
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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:33 pm

Sounds like Fantastic work.
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PostSubject: Re: Voting and Ratification   Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:16 am

I assume this is for the Diplomatic/Political side and not the War council affairs? just wondering.
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PostSubject: i like   Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:35 pm

i like the checks and balances of this system, it gives everyone a chance for a say in the clan, but still protects the overall intrest of the clan.
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